Comments on: Roberts double-flubs: Obama can retake Oath of Office, just like Coolidge and Arthur http://www.rtfa.net/2009/01/21/roberts-double-flubs-obama-can-retake-oath-of-office-just-like-coolidge-and-arthur read the fucking article Fri, 12 Mar 2010 23:08:02 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: StevenTaylor http://www.rtfa.net/2009/01/21/roberts-double-flubs-obama-can-retake-oath-of-office-just-like-coolidge-and-arthur/comment-page-1#comment-2012 StevenTaylor Wed, 12 Aug 2009 19:25:49 +0000 http://www.rtfa.net/?p=1401#comment-2012 Politics is a very dangerous game as we can see and this proves once again that the people we elect don't actually care about the well being of their voters. Maybe one year nobody will go to vote:)) <br>_________________________________<br><a rel="follow" href="http://artbloggin.com/discount-office-supplies.html" rel="nofollow">Avery Labels</a> Politics is a very dangerous game as we can see and this proves once again that the people we elect don't actually care about the well being of their voters. Maybe one year nobody will go to vote:))
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]]> By: Sidarth Kumar http://www.rtfa.net/2009/01/21/roberts-double-flubs-obama-can-retake-oath-of-office-just-like-coolidge-and-arthur/comment-page-1#comment-1632 Sidarth Kumar Sun, 08 Feb 2009 01:06:02 +0000 http://www.rtfa.net/?p=1401#comment-1632 There's a full constitutional analysis of this issue and the validity of the second oath of office at Flashscoop...<br><br>here's the link of any of you guys are interested<br><br><a href="http://flashscoop.blogspot.com/2009/02/35-words-unlimited-controversy_06.html" rel="nofollow">http://flashscoop.blogspot.com/2009/02/35-words...</a> There's a full constitutional analysis of this issue and the validity of the second oath of office at Flashscoop…

here's the link of any of you guys are interested

http://flashscoop.blogspot.com/2009/02/35-words...

]]> By: Sidarth Kumar http://www.rtfa.net/2009/01/21/roberts-double-flubs-obama-can-retake-oath-of-office-just-like-coolidge-and-arthur/comment-page-1#comment-1425 Sidarth Kumar Sat, 07 Feb 2009 20:06:02 +0000 http://www.rtfa.net/?p=1401#comment-1425 There's a full constitutional analysis of this issue and the validity of the second oath of office at Flashscoop...<br><br>here's the link of any of you guys are interested<br><br><a href="http://flashscoop.blogspot.com/2009/02/35-words-unlimited-controversy_06.html" rel="nofollow">http://flashscoop.blogspot.com/2009/02/35-words...</a> There's a full constitutional analysis of this issue and the validity of the second oath of office at Flashscoop…

here's the link of any of you guys are interested

http://flashscoop.blogspot.com/2009/02/35-words...

]]> By: Avon, Esq. http://www.rtfa.net/2009/01/21/roberts-double-flubs-obama-can-retake-oath-of-office-just-like-coolidge-and-arthur/comment-page-1#comment-1336 Avon, Esq. Fri, 23 Jan 2009 00:18:46 +0000 http://www.rtfa.net/?p=1401#comment-1336 I think the Coolidge and Arthur precedents were different - and, arguably, more necessary than Obama's re-swearing. Coolidge was sworn in by a notary public, who was not only a blood relative (which disqualifies notaries from serving in many or most states) but also a State, not Federal, office holder. Likewise, although Arthur was sworn in the first time by a chief judge, it was the New York State chief judge and not a Federal official of any kind. To be sworn into Federal service, I'd think you'd need a Federal official to preside. <br>LBJ was - quite famously - sworn in fairly privately too ... aboard a jet at cruising altitude, no less ... but nobody doubted the legality of that. I don't think the public setting matters one bit. I think the Coolidge and Arthur precedents were different – and, arguably, more necessary than Obama's re-swearing. Coolidge was sworn in by a notary public, who was not only a blood relative (which disqualifies notaries from serving in many or most states) but also a State, not Federal, office holder. Likewise, although Arthur was sworn in the first time by a chief judge, it was the New York State chief judge and not a Federal official of any kind. To be sworn into Federal service, I'd think you'd need a Federal official to preside.
LBJ was – quite famously – sworn in fairly privately too … aboard a jet at cruising altitude, no less … but nobody doubted the legality of that. I don't think the public setting matters one bit.

]]> By: farkinga http://www.rtfa.net/2009/01/21/roberts-double-flubs-obama-can-retake-oath-of-office-just-like-coolidge-and-arthur/comment-page-1#comment-1333 farkinga Thu, 22 Jan 2009 18:14:45 +0000 http://www.rtfa.net/?p=1401#comment-1333 ...that was my initial take on the situation, but on that basis, why bother to take the oath a second time? Initially, it seemed to me that the 20th amendment was adequate for handling the presidential hand-off from Bush to Obama, but as time went on, it seemed like more and more people were uncomfortable with Roberts' wording.<br><br>It's clearly a moot point, since the oath has been sworn, but for the sake of discussion, let's assume it was not simply that Roberts goofed. On that basis, what could have precipitated from the mix-up? ...anything? ...if only to set the precedent that the oath had less meaning for future presidents? …that was my initial take on the situation, but on that basis, why bother to take the oath a second time? Initially, it seemed to me that the 20th amendment was adequate for handling the presidential hand-off from Bush to Obama, but as time went on, it seemed like more and more people were uncomfortable with Roberts' wording.

It's clearly a moot point, since the oath has been sworn, but for the sake of discussion, let's assume it was not simply that Roberts goofed. On that basis, what could have precipitated from the mix-up? …anything? …if only to set the precedent that the oath had less meaning for future presidents?

]]> By: Mark http://www.rtfa.net/2009/01/21/roberts-double-flubs-obama-can-retake-oath-of-office-just-like-coolidge-and-arthur/comment-page-1#comment-1332 Mark Thu, 22 Jan 2009 16:00:15 +0000 http://www.rtfa.net/?p=1401#comment-1332 "Is it even conceivable that Roberts was attempting to have Obama swear a similar, but inaccurate, oath as a precedent for some later action?"<br><br>No. There's no way a court would declare Obama "not really president" on the basis of a trivial verbal flub like this. Any court that did something so outrageous would incur enough wrath that impeaching the judges would be a real possibility. Roberts simply goofed. Obama noticed but politely declined to interrupt the ceremony over it, and they fixed it afterward. Nothing to see here. “Is it even conceivable that Roberts was attempting to have Obama swear a similar, but inaccurate, oath as a precedent for some later action?”

No. There's no way a court would declare Obama “not really president” on the basis of a trivial verbal flub like this. Any court that did something so outrageous would incur enough wrath that impeaching the judges would be a real possibility. Roberts simply goofed. Obama noticed but politely declined to interrupt the ceremony over it, and they fixed it afterward. Nothing to see here.

]]> By: Eric http://www.rtfa.net/2009/01/21/roberts-double-flubs-obama-can-retake-oath-of-office-just-like-coolidge-and-arthur/comment-page-1#comment-1325 Eric Thu, 22 Jan 2009 05:43:30 +0000 http://www.rtfa.net/?p=1401#comment-1325 Guess we'll never know, as he re-took the oath today. Maybe he'll get to "do over" his 4-year term beginning in 2013! Guess we'll never know, as he re-took the oath today. Maybe he'll get to “do over” his 4-year term beginning in 2013!

]]> By: rtfa.net » Obama retakes oath of office a day after Roberts flub http://www.rtfa.net/2009/01/21/roberts-double-flubs-obama-can-retake-oath-of-office-just-like-coolidge-and-arthur/comment-page-1#comment-1318 rtfa.net » Obama retakes oath of office a day after Roberts flub Thu, 22 Jan 2009 01:43:16 +0000 http://www.rtfa.net/?p=1401#comment-1318 [...] Roberts double-flubs: Obama can retake Oath of Office, just like Coolidge and Arthur [...] [...] Roberts double-flubs: Obama can retake Oath of Office, just like Coolidge and Arthur [...]

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